With an Infinite God, You can have it both ways. You have real free will and God is really in control of everything that happens in the universe.
March 5, 2014 in Tuesday SAS
There is no logical way to get from “He has no sense of humor about that issue” to “He is wrong about that issue”.
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March 13, 2014 at 9:55 am
I think it’s too bad after all “the years of history about all this since 2005” you still think I’m an adversary. I think we’re pretty much in agreement about Vox. We just disagree about the best course of action to help him and his readers.
Regarding the editing, I’d thought you would like a complete deletion less than the way I edited it. Also, as it turns out, it’s harder to delete a post than to edit it.
You may know more about this, but I would have thought that the general feelings against editing someone else’s comments would only be negative if you changed his words in the middle and didn’t announce that you had done it. I just cut off the comment after the first paragraph. I honestly didn’t (and still don’t) think I left it with a positive spin. But I’ll try to not do it again. As you’ve requested, I’ve deleted the first post now also.
But no, I don’t know why you don’t comment over at Vox’s place. Has he banned you? What if you came up with a completely different alias?
March 13, 2014 at 5:41 pm
You are an adversary as a means to an end.
No, we’re not in agreement about him. You think he’s a decent enough guy to maintain a friendship with, which I claim is primarily because you get from him what you cannot obtain on your own or from other sites, which is an outlet for you opinions, a little bit of advertisement from him, and entertainment, amusement, and excitement from the rhetorical smackdown environment there.
Though you would likely be willing to maintain a relationship with someone who runs a porn site, to be able to witness to them, I assume you would have zero interest in being an integral part of that person’s life. Your friend is at about the level of a person who runs a porn site. You would not be there if you didn’t get something out of it, for yourself.
You are not there to help him and his readers. You are there for the same reason most everyone else is. You are there because it’s a fun place to be, when you’re into that kind of thing. There’s an inner-smackdown-fun-time to many people, even people like you.
I don’t comment there because there’s nothing to debate with him, or with his longtime commenters. In the past, I did occasionally drop a comment under a handle as a form of entertainment. I considered it funny if my short-term pseudonym became a pseudonym-wipping boy by him, his wife, and anyone else.
I’ve been there and done that. This has been going on for years. Everything gets old after you’ve done it enough times.
There’s nothing to debate with you either. I dropped a comment on this site because I have the same desires as you, and many others, which is to have my say.
Adios, hombre. There’s nothing to debate. I know where you stand. There’s no purpose to saying the same things over and over again. Talk is essential, but actions are the other half of the coin.
Friends talk, and say the same things over and over, but that’s not the situation here.
March 13, 2014 at 11:08 pm
I’ll agree that there is little to debate. There are areas where you and I disagree, and it does seem like discussion hasn’t helped.
Here are the areas where we disagree –
Vox’s ‘level’ – you put him at the level of a porn site, and while I think some of his posts are harmful, they aren’t nearly that harmful – and I think many of his posts serve to draw people towards God.
I disagree with you when you say he’s not “a decent enough guy to maintain a friendship with”.
I would not describe his place as “a fun place to be” (at least, that’s not why I read his posts), and generally I don’t appreciate the smack-down approach that he has in nearly every post. I will admit, though, that I find some of his anti-atheism posts to be amusing and helpful.
If he were to take down the link to my site, I’d still want to have a friendship with him.
You say, ” In the past, I did occasionally drop a comment under a handle as a form of entertainment.” The question is – did you do any good? I bet you did sometimes.
See you later when you comment again, whenever that is.
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